Comments on: Does everyone use Java still?

By: andrew

andrew — Thu, 21 Sep 2006 09:48:12 +0000

There’s something nasty about java. It desperately needs operator overloading, first class functions, closures, some way to fix its broken 1980s “I’ll do what i want” numeric operations (especially when overflowing, etc) and a simple way to express data structures that doesn’t rely on XML.

“I’m a big fan of Assembly. Every other language is cake” -> have you learned nothing in 30 years of computing? Hey, here, have these punched cards

No, Java is not the best language going today. It’s probably the most overrated language going today.

By: m@

m@ — Mon, 28 Aug 2006 01:25:16 +0000

Firstly, it appears that Google employs a great deal of Java developers. I wouldn’t mind going to work for them.

Secondly, you should read Jamie Zawinski’s “Java Sucks” article.

“I think Java is the best language going today, which is to say, it’s the marginally acceptable one among the set of complete bagbiting loser languages that we have to work with out here in the real world.”

http://www.jwz.org/doc/java.html

Thirdly, I’m a big fan of Assembly. Every other language is cake.

By: David Pardo

David Pardo — Wed, 23 Aug 2006 07:15:25 +0000

I agree with you, James. Having the possibility to choose a language gives you a broader view over the current problem. Anyhow, supporting multiple languages is no easy task for a company and I realize that usually management has to narrow the field to contain the costs.

I think the cuestion should be what kind of companies get the best programers and keeps them happy using the default environment

By: beav

beav — Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:09:01 +0000

take it easy, dude — maybe read what I wrote with a smile before you firstly and secondly me to death.

I’m going to stop assuming you still can laugh.

By: James

James — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 20:02:54 +0000

First of all I know the big blue company doesn’t have a “ton” of people doing non java development.
Secondly I didn’t assert that it makes them smarter, I’m asserting that it is to me an indicator that the people are already smarter and intellectually curious. A self-selecting population, sort of like how magnet schools work partially because the kids there who have parents who are involved enough in their child’s education to get them into that school, thereby creating a self-selecting population of kids who would do better than average in any school.

Thanks for stopping by!

By: beav

beav — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 19:55:42 +0000

work for a big blue company, I guess. I hear they have tons of people expirimenting with that shit. I also hear that it doesn’t nec. make them more intelligent, tolerant, or free thinking.